Since Everyone Loved Digg For Frames Facebook Follows Suit

I’ve noticed something that’s got me wondering.  Facebook recently installed frames to links so that when you click on a link that someone has posted on their Facebook stream, it goes to a Facebook-framed page instead of the actual link.  Remember the old days when you clicked a link and got a page saying “this site is not Facebook, go at your own risk” and then had to click again to go through?

Facebook did away with that and went directly to framing pages, Digg style, with a nice, neat little toolbar-looking frame.  Even Myspace hasn’t stooped to this (yet).

There are three basic reasons this bothers me–and should bother everyone else.. especially other bloggers:

  1. This steals traffic, links, and content. Because you’re technically still on “Digg.com” or “Facebook.com” when you visit a site in frames, the traffic does not record on the site in question.  So instead of the visit getting credited to Rev2.org, it gets credited to Digg.com or to Facebook.com.  This applies to links passed around too (i.e. “Rev2.org” becomes “digg.com/d1qiJW” instead.
  2. This means loss of revenue for you and me. If you aren’t getting the traffic (because of the frame stealing it) and you aren’t getting the link-backs (same reason), you’re losing potential advertising revenue.  You’re immediately losing it if your advertising income is based on views.  Your losing money over the long run if your advertising sales are based on overall measured site traffic.
  3. It leads to more use of this abusive phenomenon. Now that Digg apparently is doing well with it, Facebook has gotten into the act.  How long before Myspace, Twitter, Google, and the rest jump on this bandwagon?  How long after that before popups start appearing?  As times get tougher, these sites’ owners are going to get more desperate for income streams…

For a more in-depth look at why this frame spamming is such an issue, read this great post by ToMuse.

Now, when About.com started doing this (they were the first major site to do so, as I recall), many Web bloggers and writers were extremely unhappy and made a lot of complaints.  When Digg started doing it not long ago, the uproar was deafening.  Facebook, however, has barely generated a bleep on the radar with their implementation.

Why?

Good question.  First, I think users are getting used to seeing it.  Second, I think site owners are starting to get the idea that even the Big Boys aren’t going to respect their property and are now doing something about it (ala the new WordPress frame-breaker plugin).  Third, everyone seems too interested in talking about Twitter right now, so maybe the cries of foul are being drowned out by the Twitterverse.

Whatever the reason, I think we’re going to see more of this rather than less.  The sites that do this (mostly social networking sites, of course) are obviously getting away with it, so they’ll continue.  Others will inevitably join in.

That’s why content publishers like Rev2.org and others need to band together and combat this trend.  Frame-breaking is a very good start and should be standard on any site that can do it.  If you’re using WordPress, install the WordPress plugin.  If not, find some good code to insert to do it for you.  This article at flapjacktastic covers that nicely.

As the WordPress plugin site says, “Die, Digg-bar die!

Most Commented

  • You might like the original article about Digg's Diggbar that includes the 5 reasons to break the Diggbar: http://tomuse.com/digg-diggbar-facebook-content...

    Craig Agranoff:
    Thanks for linking to my article after using my image. I appreciate that. Most people don't do it! :)
    I'm not 100% sure but I actually think Facebook was using the framebar before Digg. Either way, I'm just hoping more publishers will block such spambars. Glad to hear you joined the fight!

    I don't know if you saw this but it's actually beneficial to block the Diggbar and other frames. That is, it can lead to better traffic statistics:
    http://tomuse.com/3-reasons-break-digg-diggbar-...
  • Leon Palmer
    I was outraged at first as well, but then I saw how some were doing this in a more reputable way by:
    1. Giving the viewer the opportunity to close the "toolbar" at any time thereby going directly to the page that had appeared in the frame.
    2. Providing a clear link to the "framed" page for the user to click on whenever he/she likes.
    3. Providing a "timed" removal of the "toolbar" (5, 10, 15 seconds) and then going directly to the page that had appeared in the frame.
    4. Providing the opportunity for viewers to share this link in a way that the "framed" site may not have implemented.

    Sure, some will try to steal the "juice" of others, but not everyone doing this type of framing is "out to get you." It is relatively easy to implement frame-breaking. I used to see a lot more of that years ago. If you've got a VERY popular site, by all means, go ahead.

    If you do not have the most popular site on the planet however, and you want more visitors, frame breaking may result in some deciding not to steer people to you at all anymore. None of these "toolbar" types of frames are trying to make it "look" like your content belongs to them.

    Just playing the devil's advocate and being open to "change."
  • spryka
    The greatest benefit of Facebook is that it has many groups on the site that you can join. So if you are interested in Chicago Cubs you can research Chicago Cubs in the groups section and you will be able to find friends on there that like the Cubs. This is just one example, I know that you can join groups of your favorite football team, television show, or whatever you want for the most part! If you can't find a group for your interest, you can simply create one!

    KZ
    http://EmailCharger.com
  • @spryka: and how does that have anything to do with the topic at hand - e.g. - site framing...

    In other news, I thought digg fixed their diggbar to a certain extent. They didn't fix it completely (it still defaults to the diggbar if logged in) but for users that aren't logged in, it takes them directly (permanent redirect) to the linked-to site.
    http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/04/15/digg-gi...

    Alex from http://TechNestReport.com - a tech blog, podcast, and TV channel that covers the tech industry from head to toe
  • Action taken, thanks :-)
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