Comments on: Since Everyone Loved Digg For Frames Facebook Follows Suit http://www.rev2.org/2009/05/09/since-everyone-loved-digg-for-frames-facebook-follows-suit/ Profiling Web 2.0 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:41:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Twitter Trackbacks for Since Everyone Loved Digg For Frames Facebook Follows Suit | Rev2.org [rev2.org] on Topsy.com http://www.rev2.org/2009/05/09/since-everyone-loved-digg-for-frames-facebook-follows-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-153414 Twitter Trackbacks for Since Everyone Loved Digg For Frames Facebook Follows Suit | Rev2.org [rev2.org] on Topsy.com Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:22:49 +0000 http://www.rev2.org/?p=2497#comment-153414 [...] Since Everyone Loved Digg For Frames Facebook Follows Suit | Rev2.org www.rev2.org/2009/05/09/since-everyone-loved-digg-for-frames-facebook-follows-suit – view page – cached Facebook recently installed frames to links so that when you click on a link that someone has posted on their Facebook stream, it goes to a Facebook-framed page — From the page [...] [...] Since Everyone Loved Digg For Frames Facebook Follows Suit | Rev2.org http://www.rev2.org/2009/05/09/since-everyone-loved-digg-for-frames-facebook-follows-suit – view page – cached Facebook recently installed frames to links so that when you click on a link that someone has posted on their Facebook stream, it goes to a Facebook-framed page — From the page [...]

]]> By: Kevin Eklund http://www.rev2.org/2009/05/09/since-everyone-loved-digg-for-frames-facebook-follows-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-153895 Kevin Eklund Sat, 13 Jun 2009 08:35:49 +0000 http://www.rev2.org/?p=2497#comment-153895 You might like the original article about Digg's Diggbar that includes the 5 reasons to break the Diggbar: <a href="http://tomuse.com/digg-diggbar-facebook-content-theft-traffic-money-publisher" rel="nofollow">http://tomuse.com/digg-diggbar-facebook-content...</a><br><br>Craig Agranoff:<br>Thanks for linking to my article after using my image. I appreciate that. Most people don't do it! :)<br>I'm not 100% sure but I actually think Facebook was using the framebar before Digg. Either way, I'm just hoping more publishers will block such spambars. Glad to hear you joined the fight!<br><br>I don't know if you saw this but it's actually beneficial to block the Diggbar and other frames. That is, it can lead to better traffic statistics:<br><a href="http://tomuse.com/3-reasons-break-digg-diggbar-increase-web-site-traffic" rel="nofollow">http://tomuse.com/3-reasons-break-digg-diggbar-...</a> You might like the original article about Digg's Diggbar that includes the 5 reasons to break the Diggbar: http://tomuse.com/digg-diggbar-facebook-content...

Craig Agranoff:
Thanks for linking to my article after using my image. I appreciate that. Most people don't do it! :)
I'm not 100% sure but I actually think Facebook was using the framebar before Digg. Either way, I'm just hoping more publishers will block such spambars. Glad to hear you joined the fight!

I don't know if you saw this but it's actually beneficial to block the Diggbar and other frames. That is, it can lead to better traffic statistics:
http://tomuse.com/3-reasons-break-digg-diggbar-...

]]> By: Kevin Eklund http://www.rev2.org/2009/05/09/since-everyone-loved-digg-for-frames-facebook-follows-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-144225 Kevin Eklund Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:35:49 +0000 http://www.rev2.org/?p=2497#comment-144225 You might like the original article about Digg's Diggbar that includes the 5 reasons to break the Diggbar: <a href="http://tomuse.com/digg-diggbar-facebook-content-theft-traffic-money-publisher" rel="nofollow">http://tomuse.com/digg-diggbar-facebook-content...</a><br><br>Craig Agranoff:<br>Thanks for linking to my article after using my image. I appreciate that. Most people don't do it! :)<br>I'm not 100% sure but I actually think Facebook was using the framebar before Digg. Either way, I'm just hoping more publishers will block such spambars. Glad to hear you joined the fight!<br><br>I don't know if you saw this but it's actually beneficial to block the Diggbar and other frames. That is, it can lead to better traffic statistics:<br><a href="http://tomuse.com/3-reasons-break-digg-diggbar-increase-web-site-traffic" rel="nofollow">http://tomuse.com/3-reasons-break-digg-diggbar-...</a> You might like the original article about Digg's Diggbar that includes the 5 reasons to break the Diggbar: http://tomuse.com/digg-diggbar-facebook-content...

Craig Agranoff:
Thanks for linking to my article after using my image. I appreciate that. Most people don't do it! :)
I'm not 100% sure but I actually think Facebook was using the framebar before Digg. Either way, I'm just hoping more publishers will block such spambars. Glad to hear you joined the fight!

I don't know if you saw this but it's actually beneficial to block the Diggbar and other frames. That is, it can lead to better traffic statistics:
http://tomuse.com/3-reasons-break-digg-diggbar-...

]]> By: Frame test - DiggBar: how much traffic does the DiggBar frame steal from your site? | TechNest Report | TNR http://www.rev2.org/2009/05/09/since-everyone-loved-digg-for-frames-facebook-follows-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-141810 Frame test - DiggBar: how much traffic does the DiggBar frame steal from your site? | TechNest Report | TNR Sun, 24 May 2009 19:48:00 +0000 http://www.rev2.org/?p=2497#comment-141810 [...] we discussed on the TNR Podcast over and over again (as well as countless others in the industry) we don’t like sites that frame other sites.  So we’re putting [...] [...] we discussed on the TNR Podcast over and over again (as well as countless others in the industry) we don’t like sites that frame other sites.  So we’re putting [...]

]]> By: Enough With All The Web Toolbars! We’re Not In The 90’s Anymore! http://www.rev2.org/2009/05/09/since-everyone-loved-digg-for-frames-facebook-follows-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-141428 Enough With All The Web Toolbars! We’re Not In The 90’s Anymore! Fri, 15 May 2009 19:21:35 +0000 http://www.rev2.org/?p=2497#comment-141428 [...] is a screenshot of multiple toolbars being used here that I pulled from an experiment at Rev2.org.  It includes a web toolbar from Krumlr, Ow.ly, Digg, and Facebook.  When I see a screenshot like [...] [...] is a screenshot of multiple toolbars being used here that I pulled from an experiment at Rev2.org.  It includes a web toolbar from Krumlr, Ow.ly, Digg, and Facebook.  When I see a screenshot like [...]

]]> By: Leon Palmer http://www.rev2.org/2009/05/09/since-everyone-loved-digg-for-frames-facebook-follows-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-141269 Leon Palmer Tue, 12 May 2009 23:01:17 +0000 http://www.rev2.org/?p=2497#comment-141269 I was outraged at first as well, but then I saw how some were doing this in a more reputable way by:<br>1. Giving the viewer the opportunity to close the "toolbar" at any time thereby going directly to the page that had appeared in the frame.<br>2. Providing a clear link to the "framed" page for the user to click on whenever he/she likes.<br>3. Providing a "timed" removal of the "toolbar" (5, 10, 15 seconds) and then going directly to the page that had appeared in the frame.<br>4. Providing the opportunity for viewers to share this link in a way that the "framed" site may not have implemented.<br><br>Sure, some will try to steal the "juice" of others, but not everyone doing this type of framing is "out to get you." It is relatively easy to implement frame-breaking. I used to see a lot more of that years ago. If you've got a VERY popular site, by all means, go ahead. <br><br>If you do not have the most popular site on the planet however, and you want more visitors, frame breaking may result in some deciding not to steer people to you at all anymore. None of these "toolbar" types of frames are trying to make it "look" like your content belongs to them.<br><br>Just playing the devil's advocate and being open to "change." I was outraged at first as well, but then I saw how some were doing this in a more reputable way by:
1. Giving the viewer the opportunity to close the “toolbar” at any time thereby going directly to the page that had appeared in the frame.
2. Providing a clear link to the “framed” page for the user to click on whenever he/she likes.
3. Providing a “timed” removal of the “toolbar” (5, 10, 15 seconds) and then going directly to the page that had appeared in the frame.
4. Providing the opportunity for viewers to share this link in a way that the “framed” site may not have implemented.

Sure, some will try to steal the “juice” of others, but not everyone doing this type of framing is “out to get you.” It is relatively easy to implement frame-breaking. I used to see a lot more of that years ago. If you've got a VERY popular site, by all means, go ahead.

If you do not have the most popular site on the planet however, and you want more visitors, frame breaking may result in some deciding not to steer people to you at all anymore. None of these “toolbar” types of frames are trying to make it “look” like your content belongs to them.

Just playing the devil's advocate and being open to “change.”

]]> By: Alex Luft http://www.rev2.org/2009/05/09/since-everyone-loved-digg-for-frames-facebook-follows-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-141264 Alex Luft Sun, 10 May 2009 15:08:26 +0000 http://www.rev2.org/?p=2497#comment-141264 @spryka: and how does that have anything to do with the topic at hand - e.g. - site framing... <br><br>In other news, I thought digg fixed their diggbar to a certain extent. They didn't fix it completely (it still defaults to the diggbar if logged in) but for users that aren't logged in, it takes them directly (permanent redirect) to the linked-to site. <br><a href="http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/04/15/digg-gives-in-to-diggbar-complaints/" rel="nofollow">http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/04/15/digg-gi...</a><br><br>Alex from <a href="http://TechNestReport.com" rel="nofollow">http://TechNestReport.com</a> - a tech blog, podcast, and TV channel that covers the tech industry from head to toe @spryka: and how does that have anything to do with the topic at hand – e.g. – site framing…

In other news, I thought digg fixed their diggbar to a certain extent. They didn't fix it completely (it still defaults to the diggbar if logged in) but for users that aren't logged in, it takes them directly (permanent redirect) to the linked-to site.
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/04/15/digg-gi...

Alex from http://TechNestReport.com – a tech blog, podcast, and TV channel that covers the tech industry from head to toe

]]> By: spryka http://www.rev2.org/2009/05/09/since-everyone-loved-digg-for-frames-facebook-follows-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-141263 spryka Sun, 10 May 2009 09:37:13 +0000 http://www.rev2.org/?p=2497#comment-141263 The greatest benefit of Facebook is that it has many groups on the site that you can join. So if you are interested in Chicago Cubs you can research Chicago Cubs in the groups section and you will be able to find friends on there that like the Cubs. This is just one example, I know that you can join groups of your favorite football team, television show, or whatever you want for the most part! If you can't find a group for your interest, you can simply create one!<br><br>KZ<br><a href="http://www.emailcharger.com/" rel="nofollow"> <a href="http://EmailCharger.com" rel="nofollow">http://EmailCharger.com</a> </a> The greatest benefit of Facebook is that it has many groups on the site that you can join. So if you are interested in Chicago Cubs you can research Chicago Cubs in the groups section and you will be able to find friends on there that like the Cubs. This is just one example, I know that you can join groups of your favorite football team, television show, or whatever you want for the most part! If you can't find a group for your interest, you can simply create one!

KZ
http://EmailCharger.com

]]> By: Michael http://www.rev2.org/2009/05/09/since-everyone-loved-digg-for-frames-facebook-follows-suit/comment-page-1/#comment-141261 Michael Sat, 09 May 2009 16:02:18 +0000 http://www.rev2.org/?p=2497#comment-141261 Action taken, thanks :-) Action taken, thanks :-)

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